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Now, Congress we're going to also work with Congress to see if we can fill gaps in the authorities. Now if they're trading securities, they've got to come in and I'm encouraging them to come in and let's talk to them, let's have a frank discussion, but many of them right now are trying to say, you know, dealing with their lawyers and try to say, well, well, we're not going to come in and that doesn't really make good sense for the markets. It's a facts and circumstances situation but then on the trading platforms as well as the lending platforms, many of those are standing astride regulation. We have robust authorities and in some places it's pretty clear, many of these tokens just given how they were issued and sold and so forth come under the Securities Laws.
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SORKIN: So, what has to happen? Do laws need to change? Do you have the authorities that you need? And I think those are gaps and I think that's not good for investors and I don't think it's good for the technology. The trading platforms they're on are not currently under regulatory regime that protects them like they're trading on the New York Stock Exchange, it just isn't. But what we want to do is provide some of the basic protections against fraud and manipulation.
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Look, we're an investment protection agency and right now this asset class, bitcoin and the hundreds of other coins that investors are trading at, is a speculative asset class and if people want to take risk, that's all right. GARY GENSLER: So, Andrew, it's good to be with you. You said in that speech that this asset class is rife with fraud, scams and abuse and I want to understand exactly, exactly what you would like to do. You just gave a speech all about cryptocurrency and your intention to protect investors and I want to drill down directly into what that means because I think that there's a lot of people at both in the investor community and the policy world that want to understand the details of that.
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Chairman, thank you for joining us this morning. ĪNDREW ROSS SORKIN: Let's get right to the first big guest of the hour, so many on, on the docket, but joining us right now exclusively to talk about the new, some new ideas about crypto regulation, the rise of retail investors, SPACs, meme stocks and so much more, SEC Chair Gary Gensler.
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